It was incorporated into the City of Glasgow in 1912.[5]. I remember the following; sitting on the kerb at the mouth of the close playing with the soft tar on the road in the summer with a stick and my mum using melted butter to get the stains of our clothes, playing peever with a shoe polish tin, making up little shows which we all performed in the high backs ,climbing over the pailings, and often getting our knees impaled on the sharp spikes at the top, playing balls against the wall singles and doubles too, climbing onto the steamie roof and jumping onto the pub roof dodging the barbed wire spikes, playing ropes singles and doublers, and swinging on the telephone wires above the low back steamie roof, Summertown Road steamie and baths. Mum married and moved to Whiteinch as a child and I remember going across on the ferry to Govan, Anyone recall my mum? SC 020951 As a university sociologist, Remember, Charlies sweet shop opposite us, where after playing football we were soaked in sweat, you got a glass of lemonade for threepence. Posted on Behalf of Mags Monaghan The "Wine Alley" housing scheme, just off the Broomloan Road, was notorious in Govan and elsewhere in Glasgow as a den of thieves, drunks and drug addicts. Does anybody recognise the name? It was a real shame to junk those old tenements instead of refurbishing them. I was born in the Southern General Hospital in 1958 and lived at 23 McGregor Street, Chookiehill [Teucharhill] as it was fondly called then. Although the scheme had a bad reputation for crime, drinking and violence, as a child I never felt unsafe or deprived in any way and knew only kindness from my family, friends, relatives and neighbours. Next thing I know, this policeman appeared, he looked like a giant and he asked me what was I doing. My paternal grandfather was an engine keeper for the Phoenix Copper Works, and lived on Brighton Street. I lived at 2 Robert street, Govan, we moved there from Tower Street, Kinning Park, I went to Harmony Row school (1959/60) then moved up to Hills Trust primary and after that went to Broomloan Road secondary school, that was shut down and we were moved to Govan High comprehensive around 1967/1968. 100m D.C Hair&Beauty . I married in Glasgow, Scotland in 1974 and emigrated to Canada that same year, I have lived in Canada ever since. Poor Man, he said to my Mother, "the way she's trying to kick me I think her hips are fine". Bishop King. The people of Govan didn't often use a vet, but came into the shop with their poorly pets and we all fussed over them, cuddled them, nursed them and Jackie recommended and administered patent pet medicines like Bob Martins. Another is the horses and carts assembled at Harmony Row. Lots of memories too many to say here. He also allowed naval officers in training to visit the shipyard to familiarise themselves with the new vessels. For about a decade that shop stood empty and it broke my heart. However, people striving to improve their existing environment have limited freedom to act independently. Govan was then one of 15 police divisions in the former Strathclyde Police and accounted for 20% of all homicides in the force. Above is a quote from a seasoned Timfrom the unfairly labelled Wine Alley (Moorpark) area, once of greater Govan, just off Broomloan Road. He wanted to discover how and why such places came into being and to see if remedies could be found. Glasgow Crime Stories: The drug nightmare of Wine Alley. The evidence they gathered was crucial and the jury was able to see the gang operating on the video footage shown to them. Glasgow | Govan | Central Masterplan & Urban Fabric | Page 4 Darner had two criticisms of the improvement programme. It was the policy that those with low incomes, few housing points or nowhere else to go, could only expect the least attractive housing. I was born and lived in Harmony Row, 1960, before moving to Drumchapel in 1961. JEFF TORRINGTON Singing: No, No, Yuppie, Yuppie NO! Acumfaegovan - Posted on Behalf of Mags Monaghan The "Wine | By the early 80s, much of the place had acquired an air of dilapidation and neglect. I attended Notre Dame School and Jackie told customers this to reassure them of the standard of my handwriting! My Gran Haggerty lived in 3 Helen Street Govan (above the CO OP). See more of Sunny Govan Memories on Facebook. My husband also comes from Govan. I was born in Southern General 1971, lived in 1 Elder Street with my mum Ina Quinn and dad Peter Quinn, brothers and sister. I was pretty sad when I left Govan and leaving my family was devastating to me. Sources The spin put on the regeneration programmes of the past have put too much emphasis on bricks and mortar rather than helping people deal with their own problems themselves. Poor health and low-levels of educational qualifications are offered as secondary parts of the equation. Govan (#646) This is a guide to the history and major genealogical records of Scotland as they pertain to the parishes of Lanarkshire. In fact, within only two years of the first tenants moving into their 7-storey deck-access blocks (in 1972); they had begun to complain about severe dampness, condensation, and water penetration. They were both always on a mission to land a. The faults were caused mainly by a lack of insulation and waterproofing at the joints in the concrete panels, which made up the structure. I don't know the name though and wondered if anyone could remember it. Govan Cross Wine | Visit A Winery We are the Eskimoes. [7] It is now kept inside the church, as part of the Govan Stones museum collection. The two men, working for up to 18 hours at a time, had to be smuggled out before dawn each day. I was born in Govan in 1950 at 10 Pearce Street across from the P.I., there was only one close in Pearce Street. Scottish Skier February 15, 2020 at 7:51 PM. [8] Govan is Baile a' Ghobhainn (the smith's town) in Scottish Gaelic. [11], By the 16th century, extensive coal mine workings had been developed around Craigton and Drumoyne. By the 1860s, the village needed a higher order of administration and it was made a burgh in 1864, under the General Police (Scotland) Act 1862. Especially in the Scottish context, given the important role that they have played in community planning. In this way they dispelled the idea of the workers being "work-shy" and also wanted to illustrate the long-term viability of the yards. Moorepark, Glasgow - Wikipedia Wine Alley Govan Glasgow | Visit A Winery Teddy boys jumped on little bike and broke it. Therefore, the purpose of this Reflection is to make a contribution to the discussions on community planning and have the thoughts of people who have lived through other I remember your family at 100 Harmony Row, my cousin Maisie McAlinden was friendly with the family also my Granny, or as she was better known, MAW Austin, hence I was bettter known a Joe Austin. [10][11], The area was associated with Junior football team St Anthony's who had two grounds in the area. Gary Faulds. Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland Genealogy FamilySearch Got in with the wrong crowd in Wine Alley,Govan, Glasgow,(Rab C Nesbitt Country) usual stuff to start with theft,housebreakings(Burglary to those from England), theft of and from motor vehicles, local gang wars etc, then got into some serious crime such as armed robbery, Gun running between Stranraer to Belfast, serious assaults(GBH), . Email: enquiries@gblink.org.uk , www.gblink.org.uk Very fond memories. Wine Alley feels very European and I love it! During fortnight surveillance in February 1989, they discovered that the same gang member had hired his biggest car yet. My parents lived at 49 Nethan Street and I was born at the Southern General in 1939. I've looked at several sites like this, in search of a memory or a photo and never found a thing - yet it was a Govan institution. Thanks in advance :). Here in the alley, you will find tasting rooms such as Truth Teller Winery, Baer Winery, Ancestry Cellars, Adam's Bench and the office of Woodinville Wine Country. Run by a tall slim guy whose son was a racing cyclist ? Second, it encourage prospects for social inclusion by impioving living conditions and life changes while a third (indirect) factor is that, by working with authority, it can augment the personal development and enhanced confidence that participation can bring.9 I learned then that Govan as I knew it had obviously changed (the three picture houses were gone) but was still a thriving community. When they checked the mileage they realise it was being used for much longer trips of up to 600 miles a time. We visited Govan in recent years and is not the same place anymore. From 1815 onwards, a total of 67 men and four women were hanged at the Glasgow Green site, which was once known as Jail Square. Would love to hear if anyone remembers the Wallace family! 8 Markus, 1993, p. 163 6 Markus, 1993, p. 163 USA. You have to take the responsibility for some of that.''. Around this time heroin dealing was rife in Govan, particularly in an area called Moorepark, which was nicknamed Wine Alley. Creeaz un cont nou. 11 a.m.-8 p.m. Monday . Almost went to St Anthony's primary. RM 2E6CW9C - Workers line the street and applaud the hearse carrying former trade union official Jimmy Reid as it is driven past the Govan shipyard in Glasgow, Scotland August 19, 2010. The area was originally a country estate which contained a mansion house, Moore Park, which was built in the early 19th century for the Hagart family, to plans prepared by the architect David Hamilton. I remember that when he told me that he had studied at university and that what he was now doing was his job I laughed at his education and his job. Glorious Govan. "I like to be challenged and Govan did that every day.". Govan (/vn/ GUV-n; Cumbric? Built in the early 1930s by the 1970s the Wine Ally had developed a fearsome reputation, the council \"modernised\" it and tried to reintroduce the original name Moorepark but after 40 years of being the Wine Alley most people forgot about or even knew that the Wine Ally was originally called Moorepark and did not approve of the name Moorepark and continued to call it Wine Alley. Furthermore, although the new regeneration programme mentions housing quality and physical improvements as valid points in deprived locals, they are still regarded as unessential to regeneration. Reid was a prominent union leader whose successful 'work in' at the Upper Clyde Shipbuilders in 1971 stopped government attempts to close the yards. Several hotel chains have moved in while both BBC Scotland and STV have their studio complexes there. We always used to stop at your house on the way home from St. Anthony`s school, for a blether. Vezi mai multe de la Sunny Govan Memories pe Facebook. who traditionally incorporate the red and black civic colours in the socks of their kit;[43] their Ibrox Stadium has a stand named for Govan (the closest to the heart of the burgh), although officially this was re-named after their former player Sandy Jardine in 2014.[44]. During the Viking Age, following the sack of Dumbarton Rock in 870, Govan is believed to have been one of the major centres of the Kingdom of Strathclyde. Glorious Govan. I went undercover on the 'Wine Alley' to tackle drug problem February 15, 2020 at 4:10 PM @ Anonymous LMFAO ! The following year in 1966, the yard was again reorganised as Fairfields and guaranteed by the government in response. I cleaned it up and he must have been watching, as he came back out to see if I had done well. The scheme was codenamed Operation Buckfast after a brand of tonic wine popular in the area. A later rebuilding was begun in 1884 and was opened 19 May 1888.[11][45]. Over the years the Wine Alley had been severely neglected by the council and in the 1980s like a lot of places in Britain people were faced with high unemployment, drug abuse and crime, it continued to get worse and the homes were in such a bad state due to continued council neglect and lack of investment that they were demolished by 1995 and the people scattered to the 4 corners of Govan and beyond.http://www.acumfaegovan.com Memories of our workers are Nancy, Margret-Anne and various others, oh and not forgetting Speedy. Glasgow Braendam Link, Pearce Institute, 840 Govan Road, Govan, Glasgow, G51 3UU It brought tears to our eyes as they have destroyed a lot of the buildings that should have been refurbished. Create New Account. In fact, Glasgow Corporation was so determined to place many of the cities socially deprived into Moorepark that they even advertised for them in the newspapers. They expect 20 calls a week from officers needing help. I don't like to think what might have happened if they had been discovered.''. Jocelyn Square. Don't think I enjoyed my time at Govan High, who did but I remember the english teacher Johnny Duncan, Jock Reiburn (maths), who was strict but gave me a good basic knowledge of algebra which stood me in good stead for my future in engineering. we were easy pleased in those days. My cousin disappeared, the policeman went into the steamie and came out with a bucket of soapy water and a cloth to wipe it off. Moorepark was demolished and converted into an industrial estate in the 1990s, along with a nearby contemporary development at Teucharhill which had a similar tough reputation. (they lived up the pen at No. I remember a chemist called Brays on Govan Rd. Through the ages people have lived in houses, building them according to the climate, topography, the material available, and the social and cultural ideas of the time. For instance, leaky, crumbling roofs were never repaired during the improvements nor were rotten, draught-causing window frames replaced while the backcourt midden arrangements remained as inadequate as ever. Two associated Christian burials are radiocarbon dated to the 5th or 6th centuries, making Govan the earliest known Christian site in the region. I was born in 1961. Young Young Winey (Govan) (G51) (Moorpark) 'Republican Wine Alley' . The authorities plan for the scheme started going wrong when they decided (without consulting the locals who lived in Govan) to house it mainly with outsiders or people who came from areas other than Govan. The SNP won another by-election victory in 1988, this time with Jim Sillars as candidate. Read More. [3][4], A majority of the new residents were from the Gorbals, instead of the Govan area, which had pressing issues with overcrowding and poor quality tenements. Added to these miseries, Damer also found that drug We do not pre-moderate or monitor readers comments appearing on our websites, but we do post-moderate in response to complaints we receive or otherwise when a potential problem comes to our attention. Regular bus services, mainly operated by McGill's Bus Services and First Glasgow, offer frequent routes to Glasgow City Centre, as well as to numerous locations in Renfrewshire. Every Christmas I was given a big pile of unsold comics and one day the woman gave me a bob - 12 big penny coins that filled my hand. The county added to the description of these lands, the phrase: "but now by annexation in the County of Renfrew. During the late 19th century, the population of Govan increased more than tenfold: from 9,000 in 1864 to 95,000 by 1907. George and Mary Breslin's, 2 boys (Raymond and Michael), William & Margaret Gallagher's boy and girl (Charles and Maureen) and John & Annie Mc Culloch's 2 girls and 1 boy ( Elizabeth, Mary and John) which was us. Police enter in twos with another car on standby. The local hire firm in Govan wasn't aware that their customer was a drug dealer. People lived with the inconsistency in the records. I screamed blue murder, he wanted to pull my pants down, but no way I letting him do that to me. I remember on Sunday mornings being taken with my sister, Elizabeth, on a No. Houses are places to live in, either for one person or several. One of his best customers was a former police officer who had been thrown out the force due to his heroin addiction. In early 1989 police discovered a team of young drug dealers were operating in Wine Alley, led by older man Eddie Burnside. In the Wine Alley, I loved the people more than anything. I went to Govan High school and Fairfield Primary school, I worked at MacDonalds biscuit factory then went to Toronto with my husband Dan Slavin, I miss my wee town, it will not be same anymore. Great memories. This was a very hard job physically where we would carry a wicker basket (full of ashes, etc.) Sometimes on a Sunday we would go over to Kelvingrove and (if memory serves me) run around the suits of armour until we were thrown out of the Art Galleries. Media/news company. I went to St Anthony's then St Gerard's and was there at the same time as Billy Connolly though he is a year older than me. We all loved living there as Govan was such a great place and had everything you needed, especially four cinemas. Also, among the plans for Govans hub was a programme to make Govans main shopping area more attractive such as joining Govans Market, Shopping Centre, Underground and bus depot together under the one roof.